You Might be a Progressive Christian if . . .

UPDATE 04 June 2015: I no longer maintain my Pathoes Blog and the picture of googly-eyed Jesus is hanging in our kitchen. Carry on.

For those who follow the going’s on at you will notice a new grouping of bloggers and columnists now called, “Progressive Christians.” This is a newly launched portal on the site and has drawn together such bloggers and columnists as Phyllis Tickle, Diana Butler Bass, Monica Coleman and others. Partnering with this summer’s Wild Goose Festival, the first challenge we were given was to post thoughts as part of a Symposium on Progressive Christianity where we would offer reflections on this admittedly nebulous classification.

As I thought about what I wanted to offer, I resisted reading what others had already offered up.  I’m not really sure why I didn’t want to first read what others had said, but I felt like this symposium was more about broadening our understanding of what might be considered “progressive Christianity” than trying to come to an agreed upon definition.

Before I offer up my list of “progressivisms” let me first claim an assumption that I have with the word itself.  While being “progressive” in politics and theology is often seen as ascribing to a “liberal” platform and belief system, I do not believe this to be true. For me the “progressive” adjective can exist across the theological spectrum, but holds together people who are looking at moving the church into new ways of being church.

You, so here we go, my intentionally fuzzy list of perspectives and postures that might make you a Progressive Christian.  Please keep in mind that I do not think that everyone need be one, but that there is a growing number of people who yearn for a drastically different approach to being the Body of Christ.

“You might be a progressive Christian if . . .”

You can be described, but not defined

Do people have a hard time putting you into a theological and ideological box?  The Progressive Christian often confuses staunch liberals and conservatives with the unpredictability of her conduct and the openness of her perspective.

You are more than a party platform

Do folks assume that because you land on one side on one issue, it must hold true that you prescribe to a laundry list of conservative or liberal beliefs? The Progressive Christian might be pro-this or pro-that, but he is rarely tied to any set platform.

You are not just waiting for the other side to get over their idiocy

Do you think questioning the intellect of the opposition because they are the opposition is silly and not really about having meaningful conversations?The Progressive Christian will always honor the idea that community only grows if she is open to the possibility that she might be just as wrong as the other side things she is.

You believe God can and does speak through disagreement

Does it frustrate you that so many have a difficult time being open to the possibility that genuine and faithful discernment by opposing sides might take place? The Progressive Christian, even in the most difficult of disagreements, trusts that the other is discerning the movement of the Spirit just as faithfully as he is.

You seek the highest common denominator

Would you rather find common ground in larger questions such as, ‘Who is Christ for you?’ and ‘How do we address poverty and violence?’ rather than put a great deal of energy into controlling the every move of other members of the community?  The Progressive Christian, by directing energy towards finding common ground on bigger issues seeks to build trust and make real the ever elusive idea that we can”agree to disagree.”

You find God’s inerrant truth in a non-literal understanding of Scripture

Do you believe that Biblical authority does not mean the same thing Biblical literacy literalism?  The Progressive Christian claims the Truth of God is revealed in Scripture, but that it is a truth that must be wrestled with, unpacked and never used as a weapon.

You bear with the battles

Ever wonder if some people wouldn’t know what to do with themselves if they were not in a good church fight?  The Progressive Christian knows that there are times to engage in passionate and righteous interactions, but she is not defined by the polemics nor does she determine her worth by the existence of the fight.

You appreciate the person over position

Do you find yourself drawn to relationships across theological chasms because the other person is genuine and approaches the journey of faith in similar ways? When engaging in theological discussion over tough issues, the Progressive Christian values the complex personhood that she experiences with the other over and above the rightness or wrongness of the position being discussed.

You choose the middle

Do old school left/right, black/white, good/bad polemics frustrate the heck out of you? The Progressive Christian, often accused of being soft, sees the “middle” as a place to model a new and faithful way of being church regardless of the arrows fired that are fired from edges.

You do not demand loyalty

Are you shocked at the way that “friends” turn on one another when someone engages in real conversations with the opposition?  The Progressive Christian can live with the idea that loyalty to a position or a person can easily turn into idolatry and that being open to true dialogue with and being gracious towards people who disagree is not a sign of weakness, but an expression of strength.

I am sure that there are plenty of others out there, there is plenty of overlap and not everyone who considers herself a Progressive Christian will fit perfectly into each of these statements.  With that said, if the very notion of not fitting into every predefined theological slot does not cause you anxiety and stress . . . hate to break it to you, but you might be a Progressive Christian.


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  • Kilmrnock  

    i would like to comment on progressive christianity from another prospective . i am a celtic druid , and my views on religion and politics are what could be called liberal libritarian. from what i’ve read and briefly researched the progressive xtian movment will be embraced by the pagan community as a whole . i for one welcome open dialog between our perspective groups . the pagan community in general has problems w/ conservative xtians mainly due to thier insistance that we worship thier devil and that we are pure evil and are hell bound and the idea that thier way is the only way. in the pagan faith we donot kill babies or sell our souls to the judio -xtian devil . the concept of tolerance i’ve ead about in the progressive xtian movment sounds like a good basis for meanful dialog with outside faith groups w/o all the conservative baggage. we are more alike than differant. a progressive christian sounds like someone i can talk to and work with . time will tell.  Kilmrnock aka Dennis

  • Andrea York  

    I feel like I’m getting in on this conversation a little late. GREAT post!

    I agree with most, however, there is a standard in Scripture that can not be placed in the middle. Christ came to save the lost but also to divide. You can not love Christ and be sitting on a fence. You have to stand for something and not be apologetic and wishy washy about it.

    To disagreements, we must put on love and in love teach others in the way that is right.

    It’s my first time here, I’ll be back. Thanks.

  • Anonymous  

    Hey, Bruce!

    “…there is a growing number of people who yearn for a drastically different approach to being the Body of Christ.”

    Different than what? That which is called “Christian” today takes many widely varying forms. When I hear calls for “different” I get scared. “Different” sometimes means “unbiblical.” I would say that it’s when Christians have strayed from Biblical teaching that they have gotten into trouble. The fact that you have described progressive Christians without once even mentioning the name of Jesus Christ is worrisome. Should not Christians of all stripes derive their identity from him? Should not God’s revelation of him as revealed in the pages of scripture define us?

    • Dan Martin  

      Indeed, God’s revelation *should* define us, Brian.  That revelation, as the pages of scripture reveal to us, is the person and character of Jesus himself.  As I was just reading the other day in Greg Boyd’s excellent book The Myth of the Christian Religion: if it looks like Jesus, it’s Christian.  If it doesn’t, it isn’t.

      Some who have been labeled “Progressive” have gotten that way due to the coincidence that the love of neighbor and enemy and poor that Jesus demonstrated, happens to look more like the “liberal” way of doing things than the “conservative” way…while conversely those “Christians” who most crow about morals and values and doctrine look a lot more like the Pharisees in the pages of scripture, than they do like Jesus.

      This is not to say that “liberal” or even “progressive” are inherently Christ-like concepts–far from it (which is what I was getting at in the epilogue of my recent 10 Commandments post).  And perhaps because there are so many uses for “progressive” that are decidedly un-Christ-like, I’m less comfortable than some others with use of the term.  Nevertheless, progressives’ contention that conventional Christianity has abandoned the character of Jesus Christ is (IMO) indisputable.

  • Jennifer A. Nolan  

    This is a much deeper discussion of Christianity and politics than any I’ve come across on the Web!  I am SO not going away; this is  a breath of fresh air!!

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  • James Enns  

    Micah call us to act justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.  I do agree with many points you made, and see the strengths of what you label a “progressive Christian”.  But, the important thing is building your own relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit….and then letting the result flow out from you towards others.  I believe you step on “thin ice” when you start to label someone as a fake or phoney Christian…examine yourself (referring more to some of the comments then the article itself).

  • Dan Martin  

    Hey Bruce, learned about your post through my buddy @kurtwillems:disqus … You list some interesting points here, and as with many such lists I see myself described in some, but not all points.  My question is with the choice of the term “progressive.”  As some others have pointed out here, it’s a term that has been associated in American politics with the liberal wing, just not quite as extreme or as angry with conservatives as full-on liberals might be.  Accurately or not, it carries a lot of baggage as basically “liberal-lite.”

    But that’s not my main issue with it.  Historically as I understand (and I’m neither historian nor philosopher) the term comes from the Enlightenment idea that society is getting inexorably better, with the tacit intent to imply that eventually, anyone with all the facts will be where we are now, we’re just ahead of the curve (sometimes smugly so).  In the wrong context, “progress” defined in this way becomes the end in itself…and usually tends toward somewhat of a Star Trek Next Generation sort of ideal for society.

    Applying this notion to faith and faith communities can be less than helpful, first (as I already alluded) by painting a picture that we’re sort of the leaders of the trajectory everyone will eventually follow (or die out in their old fogeyness), and second by losing the New Testament focus for what fellowship in the Kingdom of God is supposed to be and not be.

    I have no alternative label to propose, I’m afraid.  I’m not sure whether that’s because I’m not really part of the group that rightly defines itself as “progressive,” or because the actual work of the Spirit in today’s church defies this characterization.  I’m thinking maybe some of both.  Part of me just cheers the drift of *any* portion of the Evangelical church away from the right wing, but then I look at the left wing (old, mainline and new, emerging) and I wonder if we’re just replacing one set of societally-defined norms with another.  The latter is many things, but “progress” isn’t one of them.

    Hence my own contention that what is needed is truly a new reformation in the church…

    Grace & peace!

  • Irishpastor  

    Interesting article, my one thought is the only progressive people whether left or right are the people that are actually doing it. So many define themselves by what they say or blog but how we live is actually what we are and believe. As the the old saying goes when all is said and done, often more is said than done.

  • Jim Papandrea  

    Well said, Bruce! I resonate with a lot of this – in a room full of conservatives, I’m the liberal; but in a room full of liberals, I’m the conservative. I’m a firm believer that the truth is in the middle. Here’s my take on that in my own blog:
    Peace, Jim Papandrea

  • Kurt Willems  

    Hey @breyeschow:disqus ! Great post!  It’s written after the spirit of my article a couple of weeks back “You Might Be an Evangelical Reject if…”
    For those interested, you can read it hear:

    On another note, I consider myself a progressive evangelical, but have struggled with the label.  I think that is evidenced by your point “You can be described, but not defined.”  Well said!  Also, I am going to be a blogger for Patheos to add to your “new progressive bloggers” list as soon as my new website is ready.  I look forward to interacting with you here at Patheos and wish that I could be at the Wild Goose Festival… too bad for me… I live in California :-)Blessings to you Bruce and have a great time at the gathering!!!!!!

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  • Richard  

    Thanks for the conversation, Bruce. I am one of four musician-writers engaging worship leaders in a similar conversation. 

    I’ll be sharing your post on our PCAN (Progressive Christian Artist Network) page. 

  • Jacktheheretic  

    Whoah, that is actually very helpful for helping me clarify my own identity a little. Great post. Long live the Middle!

  • spartan  

    We live in a conservative community and are members of one of the more liberal Christian churches in the area – which is an interesting place to be at times in the broader community.  We enjoyed reading your list and probably find ourselves on the progressive rather than regressive side of life and Christianity.  Wondering how my conservative friends might choke if I indicate I am a progressive Christian!  One of the commenters spoke to literacy vs. literalism.  Come on – sometimes it seems like literacy is a real challenge for casual readers of the Bible.   

  • rtgmath  

    Sir, I am going to have to disagree with you. I believe that “Progressive” actually means that we want to “Progress.” As you define it, though, no progress can be made.

    As a Christian Liberal (and Progressive), I do not hold the opinion of the Tea Party in as high esteem as I do my own. While I may indeed be wrong, there is no doubt in my mind that *they* ARE wrong. Is there anything unprogressive about standing for what you believe in, or is Progressivism the same as WishyWashyIsm? And no, I do not believe that other people taking the opposite position are necessarily seeking the leading of God’s Spirit. Meanness, lack of caring, and an “I got mine, you don’t get any of it” attitude do not reflect seeking God’s way, especially when there is no evidence of seeking Scripture beyond the “If any man will not work, neither let him eat” passage.

    I do not “choose the middle.” I take my stand on what I think is right regardless of where others stand. I oppose the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. I think we should shrink the military budget. 

    Yes, I am more than a platform. My theology has had to change as I encountered difficult truths that demanded my attention. And yes, I have friends that I cannot talk about important things politically or religiously with. Unfortunately, the position a person takes says *something* about the person themselves. If it is a matter of education, that can be fixed. If it is a matter of character, well, that is much harder. Maybe they aren’t idiots — maybe they have an inherent badness they haven’t yet overcome.

    I myself had to wrestle through some major issues to come from an ultra-right-wing-conservative politically and theologically to arrive at what I am today. So I do try to be generous and engage people. But I realize that I had a lot of character flaws back then that (whether it was my fault or not) I want nothing to do with now. I had to experience situations I scoffed at earlier, and experience the scoffs for myself to learn how wrong I was so often.

    My position now has been earned by lots of experience and the realization that people are important. I would fight for the rights of the Tea Party nuts as much as I would fight for the rights of anyone else — but that doesn’t mean I would expect them to do the same for me. And that tells me that my position *is* better than theirs.

    Call me arrogant if you must. God helping me, I want to defend the helpless against those who would hurt them.

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @d948a69424212a90e15702e56af83c4b:disqus Thanks for the thoughtful push back and I do resonate with much of what you say.  Some is certainly semantics and tactics, but I think you do hit on some interesting points.  

      I might say that no longer buying into the “better than” mentality IS indeed progress, for if there are enough who no longer play that game, then the extremes are silenced.  At least that is the tact that I will choose to take.

      But . . . again, you raise great points that I suspect many who read this list will find agreement.

    • The Titans' Relic  

      The same “my way or the highway” approach that you so freely label “tea-partiers” as, is the same one you just espoused for seven paragraphs.  I believe the message that the author was trying to get across is that you can believe whole-heartedly in whatever you want, while not disparaging another group or viewpoint that doesn’t hold that same view. 
      Your statements about the Tea Party are blatantly ill-informed.  Tell me, do you rush to defend those that hold your same ideology when they commit thug like acts (does Wisconsin ring a bell?)?  Or do you just prefer to assume that the Tea Party is bunch of retarded racists?  The Tea Party WOULD fight for your right to an opinion, it’s one of its founding tenets.  Please stop watching Jon Stewart for viewpoints on the Tea Party.  Why not ask a member instead?  Oh, by the way….I fall into 99% of the author’s definitions of a progressive Christian…AND I’m a staunch supporter of the Tea Party.

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  • Nomali Perera  

    Nice! I think what you wrote here also resonates with what’s been called an “Integral Christian.”

  • Tslewisstrongtower  

    I enoyed this. One little correction  the below paragraph, in the last sentence. Change things to thinks. God Bless

    You are not just waiting for the other side to get over their idiocy – Do you think questioning the intellect of the opposition because they are the opposition is silly and not really about having meaningful conversations?The Progressive Christian will always honor the idea that community only grows if she is open to the possibility that she might be just as wrong as the other side things she is.

  • Jose-Manuel Capella-Pratts  

    Bruce: As I move to Miami from Puerto Rico next August to be the pastor of First Spanish Presbyterian Church, I can totally relate to your description.  I was uncomfortable with the possibility of being labeled either as “conservative” by the liberals, or “liberal” by the conservatives.  Because I don’t fit in any of those labels.  This made me remember a book by H. Hassall where Presbyterians are called “people of the middle way”. So, as I read your post I can see myself as a progressive Christian.  Thanks for your insight.  Peace.

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @google-5a63b3bdefa8d25550d935d3c86a96c4:disqus Blessings on the transition to Miami, I am sure that it will be eventful!  And thank you for the kind words, I am glad this was helpful.  Peace

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  • Karen Zacharias  

    Great list tho I am bemused by the notion that we put ourselves in categories that we then turn around and bemoan. Wonder if heaven has subdivisions? Conservatives on this side of the tracks, Progressives in the downtown lofts… 

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @google-6e4aecd0ae2ebfb957eb2ae8c4600b93:disqus Yes, the irony is blinding 😉

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  • Magicmandoneit  

    Why don’t you allow comments when you post these on HuffPo?

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @ad9059ac9315391b09c2d9d78cf2bd2d:disqus Two reasons, mostly because I simply cannot committ to interacting with comments on the three sites that I blog for, here, HuffPo and SFGate . . . and since Patheos is the only one that compensates me for my content, I choose them.  It is not a great deal, but as a person who makes his living writing and interacting, I can only put so much energy into so many areas.  The honest truth.

  • Melaavema  

      Thanks, Bruce, you have put in a nutshell what I’ve been trying to take from by brain to paper. I am happy to know that there is no need to take on a label in the Presbyterian Church, and I’m equally happy to know the church is full of people that fit the description you’ve given. It has also given me hope and a new inspiration to get to know the Presbyterian Church better.
       So, if someone were to categorize me, and I hate
    being categorized, Progressive Christian would likely be it, however, I still won’t take on that label, or any other, myself…how’s that for a “progressive christian?” 😉

  • Anonymous  

    I define myself as a progressive Christian. A true Christian treats others ( of any race, creed, sexual orientation, etc.) as they would want to be treated themselves. A true Christian is concerned about social justice. A true Christian is truly pro-life, some examples include providing WIC funding for those in need, supporting birth control and sex education so that young people and others can avoid abortion, enabling job growth and hiring so that folks can make a dignified living, and providing funding for medical care for those on hard times. Systems do need improvement. Waste does need to be eliminated. Bring our troops home. Get tough with Wall Street. Tax those who make very high incomes. A group of millionaires contacted Congress to say they were in favor of increased taxes for high income folks. One Congressperson told them, if you want to give money to the govt. that is fine, but we are not going to increase taxes on the rich. It seems to me that too many in the House of Representatives and in the Senate benefit from keeping the status quo, because it benefits themselves. Whatever happened to the concept of statesmen and stateswomen? Statespeople are politicians who serve those who elected them. Statespeople are NOT self-serving. 

  • Rosengarten  

    You might be a progressive Christian if you believe that there are no facts in Christianity only interpretations

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  • Jadanzzy  

    This doesn’t sit well with me. I know conservative/liberal Christians who exhibit a lot, although maybe not all, of these traits, yet still feel comfortable being either conservative or liberal.

    Isn’t it also a bit ironic that a Christian that does not find herself in the liberal/conservative label then uses another label to define their undefinability. 

    The other problem with the word “progressive”, as much as anyone wants to parse it, is that it is too closely aligned with the political, social democratic, connotation. It’s much too culturally aligned with being a “liberal”. What about emergents who are libertarians, who embrace social civil liberties but can’t stomach big-government fiscal policies? 

    I guess one can be a progressive Christian, and not be politically progressive? 

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @jadanzzy Well when it comes right down to it, labels are labels are labels . . . they are what other and the self determine they mean. I still think that engaging in individual and communal  introspection about understandings of self are important no matter the word.  

      But . . . to your final questions, I think yes.  As I wrote this I held in my head a couple of politically conservative colleagues with whom we have found great connections in faith.  We have had many a conversations about our traditional “liberal” and “conservative” backgrounds leading me to firmly believe that there is some way of being that cuts across these poles.  

      Thanks for commenting and I hope you’re well.

  • Anonymous  

    I think this is a good start but I have some questions. 

    How do you deal with someone who is not discussing a political point with you in good faith? 

    How do you deal with “low information” (basically incurious) activists, who don’t WANT to know about the Governmental Systems and Laws they complain about, or about the social issue you are trying to define and resolve? 

    How do you deal with other Churches you might disagree with, who openly campaign for the election of specific candidates — while your Church holds back from the political frey?

    How do you deal with opponents who have moved from activism to violence?

    These questions might not immediately seem to be problems for Christian Activists — but they will quickly become problems for anyone who wants to resolve a social issue that has become important to them. It’s a new world out here.

  • Max  

    You missed an important item.  Real Christians don’t participate in or support wars.  So they don’t support US foreign policy.  That knocks out 99% of the phonies who call them Christians in this county (and probably Chow included).  First you should actually be one before you ask yourself if you’re a progressive one.  This article is really just about the politics of being of phony Christian.

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @4fd441bee39ef38733afdb8b6fce8587:disqus Thanks for taking the time to comment. Could you define “real” versus “progressive” to help me understand where you are coming from. Do you think there is a list of specific political/social issues on which one must take a stand in order to be considered a “real” Christian? I think you are right in pushing on how people of faith – all stripes – understand their role as part of the state.

  • Mark Baker-Wright  

    Point of clarification: In your point about a non-literal understanding of Scripture, you state following: “Do you believe that Biblical authority does not mean the same thing Biblical literacy?”

    Based on the context, I’m assuming you intend “literacy” to mean “the state of being literal” here, rather than “having the ability to read,” which is what I understand the word “literacy” to actually mean (this is sometimes variously understood as whether a person actually CAN read, or whether they are well-versed in the literature.  Either way is fine).  Obviously, we WANT people to be Biblically literate!

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @NicodemusLegend:disqus Wrong word, thanks for the correction. Should be literalism.

  • Dennis Sanders  


    This is an interesting post which as gives me a lot to think about.  I’ve been wary of the use of the term “progressive” within what was once called “mainline Protestantism.”  While I would say more often than not that I would fit into your definition of “progressive,” I tend to think that far too often the result of using the word progressive is far different than from its original intent.  Your definition is one that I think wants to be more than just another word for an ideological position.  The problem is, far too often in noticing how people actually live, people tend to use progressive to mean subscribing to a particular political agenda.  I don’t think that people are walking around wanting to do that, but it happens.

    I guess another reason I am wary of the term is more personal.  While I am probably more liberal theologically, I tend to be somewhat more conservative/libertarian politically.  What I see from people using the whole “progressive Christian” wording is they are both theological and political liberals.  The unease at the base of it all is that the word “progressive” tends to make me feel unwelcome in the former mainline churches, even though I might share some theological views with folks.

    I know that for many the term is freeing and wonderful and describes a more expansive understanding of Christianity.  But for me it makes me feel that to be part of the gang I have to adopt a liberal Democratic agenda. Maybe I’m all wet about this, but it is just how I feel.

    Dennis Sanders

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @facebook-527241940:disqus Totally agree with the murkiness of the term and I think you are correct in what people assume about the term.  I do think tho that I have met many a “conservatives” who I really do think are progressive about faith and the church because they no longer align with the Republican party as many would like to think they do.

    • Jennifer A. Nolan  

      Thans for this comment, Dennis.  On my more usual Christian blog, everyone is up in arms about the budget cuts at the expense of the “poor and vulnerable.”  A better-balanced political process is all very well, but I’ve written over and over that if people want it so much, they will have  to take a stand for it, like minorities standing for their civil rights.  At any rate, I’m glad I found a forum where you can disapprove of certain welfare programs and still be thought of as a good Christian, and a good citizen.

  • Tim Black  

    Yep, this is me.  Thank you, Bruce.  These are very, very good and consistent with where I think many of us fall.  I value you over anything you have to say, but I really like what you have to say!


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  • Dori Marshall  

    Bruce, you’re on it.  I particularly enjoy thinking that we defy definition but can, on the other hand, subject ourselves to description.  Thanks for opening up this thread.  I think if some of us really did some discernment, we would understand the forward momentum of the Holy Spirit means progress.  Then the question is more about keeping up.  Thanks for this.

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @4f98c0506eff4156110389cb97876058:disqus Thanks. I hope it inspires some good conversations.  

  • Jason Robbins  

    Great points, and I would have to say I fit into all these categories. But I would also add that, as a youth pastor, I see more of our youth who could be labeled as progressive Christians. Maybe someday, as the generations continue, progressive Christians will just be called Christians.

    Thanks for the insight.

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @twitter-2014401:disqus Interesting.  I do think I am younger than I really am 🙂

  • Betwink13  

    I enjoyed and agree with most of what you wrote here (not that agreement or disagreement is the point…since that would run counter to what is described above). What struck me is the above might make a darn good description for being a progressive in the political arena as well. I think in both our faith and politics, we’ve grown too obsessed with labels and drawing lines in the sand. The ability to seriously consider all sides instead of spouting a party line sounds like a good way to be a Christian AND a citizen.

    • Bruce Reyes-Chow  

      @53077900782f6014099672641fe53299:disqus Good observation and I do think you are correct.  I would not act any differently if I as engaged in politics as I do as a minister. Language would change of course  but my faith does and should impact my politics.

      • Lambrightmc  

        Hey Bruce,
        I met you at the National Black Presbyterian Caucus Banquet a couple of years ago.  I saw you at GA last year.  I hope to see you in Indianapolis in a couple of weeks.  I just stumbled upon your blog but I am sure glad I did.  I thought I was just odd.  You helped me to describe my view of Christianity.  I really value to person over being right.  I am in Bible Study weekly this year.  I like what you said, literately is not the same as understanding it literally.  Keep it coming!  I can relate.

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